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Whats up, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this podcast is all about an incredible story of overcoming most cancers and in addition about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and in addition changing into a magnificence queen. And the rationale that she really did that and the way she used that platform to indicate her scars and to indicate her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside along with her most cancers prognosis and to deliver consciousness. She additionally talks rather a lot about some taboo matters. we speak about sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually stunning statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and in addition methods to assist enhance them. So, positively, a fact-packed episode, her story is absolutely unbelievable. And with out additional ado, let’s be part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks as if you have got each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which might be extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to begin broad, I’ve learn that you’ve a very, actually attention-grabbing and superb story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a prognosis of sooner or later of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually stunning and empowering and superb. So can we begin by studying a little bit extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump once I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional threat components, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be a little bit perplexed as a result of I believed it was concerning the affected person, not the, you realize, the numbers. So it took quite a lot of convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They obtained an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very flawed. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was flawed and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a distinct hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can truthfully say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I would like girls and even males to know that once they really feel that there’s one thing flawed with them, that they have to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you realize you now. And nevertheless, you realize, this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a selection. I might let most cancers defeat me or I might make it about one thing larger than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to hitch a magnificence pageant. Now chances are you’ll surprise why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I truthfully consider that in case you assume it is going to defeat you, it completely will. You might be proper by hook or by crook.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to hitch Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to dwell their finest life regardless of most cancers. To indicate them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less stunning, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It might have been straightforward to take action, however it was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t deliver myself to put on it as a result of I wished to talk my reality. And once I received Miss Florida, it was a giant win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any sort. So, in so some ways, you realize, my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very completely happy as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s superb. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves in terms of medical care. And I had an analogous expertise in a a lot much less ominous prognosis, however I, for years, knew one thing was flawed and would go to docs and ask for checks. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was instructed, “Nicely, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of this stuff are regular postpartum. Your ranges are fantastic.” They usually have been solely testing, after all, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a prognosis that then helped me recuperate. And also you hear about this rather a lot within the medical world. And sadly, it looks as if it typically occurs extra to girls than males actually because I feel many research are carried out on males as a result of they’re simpler to review.

However I feel…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I feel one of the best outcomes, and also you would possibly agree from a physician’s perspective, occur when you have got a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and in addition desirous to work with a practitioner as a accomplice in bettering their very own well being. And the opposite factor you stated that I feel is so essential on this and in truthfully, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept that in case you assume one thing will defeat you, it is going to. And likewise when you’ve got a constructive mindset, that goes such a great distance towards the restoration. How essential do you assume that mindset piece was for you and for different folks in the identical scenario?

Dr. Bawa: I really like what you stated as a result of so many docs are usually not testing you absolutely, even when they do take a look at you. And I’m so completely happy that you just have been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was flawed. And so far as mindset is worried, mindset in my case was every little thing. And this may occasionally appear dramatic, however this can be a true incident. I had some issues throughout my most cancers remedy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges have been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And one in every of my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we circled. And once I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I stated to her, “It’s okay. It really is. I will likely be fantastic. And never solely am I going to be fantastic, in just some months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And she or he laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not value doing if it was not value doing absolutely and properly. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to folks usually about mindset, about perseverance. And I feel that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I might have made it so far as I did and had the result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any despair on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I feel that’s the primary factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you just reframed that and didn’t disguise from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it might open a dialog about that. I feel typically in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence appears to be like like and that strain to really feel excellent and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought of, you realize, bodily excellent. And possibly by doing that, you gave girls freedom to be who they really are in so some ways, and to not have to take care of this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your motive for competing as properly is that you just have been capable of shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as properly, proper? You used your platform to deliver quite a lot of consciousness there as properly.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I wished to lift consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers prognosis, that there’s a lot stuff to stay up for. Now, occurring stage and the gown I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was an announcement. I didn’t select a gown that lined my chest. I might have. There are numerous robes I might have worn which might be completely stunning that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast dimension. However I went on stage as is. I used to be fully uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my selection of gown. This was about, once more, one thing larger than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and brief hair with some areas that have been extra thinning than others. And this was essential to me as a result of I don’t need folks to assume that most cancers is just not stunning. Most cancers is simply as stunning as anything. And I feel that that was an important message to ship to the world. And I feel it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how at first overwhelming a most cancers prognosis should really feel. And I hear from folks, sadly, like I stated, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a prognosis and, you realize, overwhelmed and surprise the place to even begin on the lookout for sources. So I’m curious if there have been issues that have been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece whenever you have been going by means of that and/or that helped you realize issues to do to bodily assist your self by means of that course of and to ensure your physique was nourished and capable of recuperate?

Dr. Bawa: You understand, it’s attention-grabbing how life labored out for me. I used to be not likely…as a part of my medical observe, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based observe. Once I began this, once I conceived this observe, I used to be not considering of most cancers. I used to be not considering of what a most cancers affected person wants for assist but paradoxically, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t should go exterior to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I might do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you possibly can’t eat properly, your dietary degree goes down at some extent whenever you want a better dietary degree to struggle that illness, to struggle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, basically. You want it. I extremely suggest it. It saved my life, however it’s a poison. Let’s not overlook that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be capable of do hair restoration inside my observe as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many instances, it needs to be about hair loss prevention. No person thinks of it that manner, even my very own pals stated I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They instructed me I used to be being, you realize, very superficial. And I stated, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about preventing it when you possibly can struggle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my observe and I by no means went bald regardless of very robust chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mix of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers remedies or has gone by means of most cancers remedies, they know the way robust that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, you realize, on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin remedies at my very own observe as a result of chemotherapy causes quite a lot of pores and skin harm and hyperpigmentation. So regardless of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had quite a lot of pores and skin harm. So, quite a lot of that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my observe in any manner. You requested how I obtained by means of it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a dwelling anyway. Now, how different folks would get by means of it, I extremely suggest that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the sources close to them. Possibly there’s a observe like me close to them. Possibly there’s any individual who will help them save their hair. Possibly there’s somebody who will help them with wellness and IVs and, you realize, serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin modifications and issues like that. As a result of, you realize, it’s very miserable whenever you look within the mirror and also you don’t appear like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you virtually don’t acknowledge who you might be. And there’s one thing to be stated for making an attempt to take care of what you possibly can of your self by means of all of it.

I imply, there was some extent I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t wish to settle for that. So, I really went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye coloration and do harm to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market may also do harm. Individuals don’t speak about it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it may trigger some modifications within the coloration of your eye, as an example. No person talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was constructive in each manner for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my observe for that. So, a lot of that, you realize, I used to be so fortunate, however I do suggest that they attain out to social employees, they attain out to assist teams, and in my case, to pals. My household doesn’t dwell right here. My household’s abroad. So my pals have been my tribe. They have been those who helped me by means of all of it. My buddy, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. You understand, it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s stunning. And I feel that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that typically occurs in terms of most cancers remedy or any type of medical remedy. It looks as if typically there’s a pressure between the traditional mannequin and the issues you’ll want to do medically and the wellness aspect. And it looks as if one of the best outcomes really occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it’s not an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which might be supportive of your physique and in addition supportive of hopefully, the method of remedy and serving to your physique recuperate extra shortly. However that’s a very unbelievable story that hopefully provides hope to anybody else who would possibly, sadly, be in the identical scenario. And also you talked about your observe, I’d like to delve into a few totally different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with folks in quite a lot of other ways.

However one other space I hear rather a lot from girls about proper now and I’m wondering if COVID may be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks as if there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in girls. I don’t know if that is present or in case you’ve perhaps seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious in case you’re comfy sharing, in case you had any of these struggles whenever you went by means of your chemo journey, but additionally the ways in which you assist deal with that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very obsessed with. I do quite a lot of intimate wellness for each women and men at my observe, and chemo and most cancers remedies, most cancers medicines, even after chemo may cause quite a lot of modifications in a lady’s hormonal steadiness. It threw me into menopause. So, you realize, there’s rather a lot that goes flawed with most cancers and with ageing, usually. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that may be very ignored. Girls take higher care of their vehicles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I stated about hair loss in terms of most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as a substitute of remedy. So, I encourage girls to come back get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So lots of my sufferers say, “Nicely, I’m not that unhealthy but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I wish to clarify to girls around the globe that they should handle themselves sooner.

If you happen to deal with the issue earlier, youthful, you have got higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age in another way. It’s not simply your face that’s ageing, it’s your vagina as properly. So I’m very huge in my observe on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to deliver higher blood circulate into your vaginal space, usually, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic flooring, all of it wants good blood circulate. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. You understand, it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you grow old, blood vessels in every single place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood circulate. And that makes your pelvic flooring stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and every little thing else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re actually making a giant stride in the direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to girls of all ages. It additionally makes girls extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a great plus level with it. So, we do O-Pictures at our observe, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the great, great results now we have with it. And there’s little doubt, and that’s the fantastic thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as properly at my observe with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something unfavorable about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps girls throughout the board. I truthfully have an issue making an attempt to even let you know as a lady it won’t work. And you realize what? Typically the query is, “Who will it assist?” I feel the query with FemiWave is totally different, “Who will it not assist?” And I truthfully can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or kind. In order that’s one thing that I’m very completely happy to be doing. And we are actually a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for ladies and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, usually, by serving to folks this manner.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that ageing course of occurs there as properly, particularly simply as part of regular ageing. And I do know girls report extra pelvic flooring points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of ladies. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that manner. Are there different components, like as an example, you talked about that that type of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause typically impacts sexual well being for ladies. Are this stuff that you just do in your workplace capable of assist type of deal with the, like, sexual satisfaction aspect of that even after menopause for ladies?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do may be very complete. I really feel the totally different elements of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an example, I don’t simply do hormone alternative, I prefer to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of facets of our life as we age, as we struggle totally different illnesses. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, usually. So I prefer to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I might optimize your hormones. I might optimize your diet and your metabolic scenario with IV remedy. I might do, you realize, GAINSWave in case you’re a person, I do FemiWave in case you’re a lady. These are issues that assist everybody. I can not think about providing you with a subset that it might not assist. In some form or kind, it is going to assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does any individual want, you realize, as an example, a vaginal laser? We will all the time do this. Do the lads want some type of treatment? We will do this. So I feel that this must be seen as a much bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks as if one of the best outcomes in any realm occur whenever you deal with the physique as an entire and work and assist its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you just discovered useful personally or that you just suggest to your sufferers that they will do at residence which might be supportive, whether or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks as if sleep and hydration are throughout the board all the time good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 friends on this podcast say sleep is just not essential and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there stuff you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the consequences of those remedies and in addition that have been useful to you whenever you have been going by means of your journey?

Dr. Bawa: In fact, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I might do to calm my thoughts was useful. I feel meditation is underrated. I don’t assume that you need to sit for an hour and, you realize, stare on the house to meditate. I feel meditation might be various things to totally different folks. The concept is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a bit of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I feel you’ll want to calm your thoughts and discover steadiness inside your self above all. After which I feel that hydration is a superb factor. As you talked about, hydration is a primary factor. If you’re not hydrated, then nothing works properly. Your pores and skin, your well being, usually, nothing works properly with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you you need to eat natural, it’s not all the time possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do suggest making an attempt your finest to have a extra inclusive weight-reduction plan, extra fruit and veggies, not taking any group out of your weight-reduction plan.

As an example, chemo can result in quite a lot of weight achieve. It’s a fallacy when folks assume that each one most cancers sufferers drop some pounds. Some achieve. I did. So I feel the concept is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll drop some pounds,” or let me do that or that, I’ll drop some pounds. I feel a balanced, nutritious diet with smart parts is essential. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s essential. Steadiness is essential in each side. After which, after all, I feel when you will discover a physician close to you who will help you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, you realize, all of this was obtainable to me, however hunt down practitioners who consider in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their observe one thing that may provide help to. Now, sexually, as an example, we’ve talked about FemiWave. If you’re someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we actually have a machine. In the event that they contact us, we will all the time ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness machine that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave expertise and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and convey good blood circulate into the vaginal space. It’s not as robust as what we do within the workplace, however it’s a beautiful adjunct for some other remedy or anything you’re doing in your life. If you happen to can’t get to us personally, not less than use this at residence. It is rather useful.

Katie: And I’m curious in case you can converse to perhaps in simply generalities or perhaps particular instances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes folks typically want these sorts of remedies? Like, I feel most individuals perhaps don’t understand that you just see these type of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like folks perceive in that degree. However it might seem to be rising blood circulate could be a fairly dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do folks sometimes see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly every week in the past is a couple of gentleman who is nearly 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him they usually’re having one of the best intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had remedies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, you realize, they’re having intercourse not less than as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And typically they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention any individual who’s virtually 70 years previous. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my observe, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you might be. If in case you have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and dwell your finest life. Have you learnt that 20% of males of their 20s endure from erectile dysfunction? No person thinks that the 20s might deliver dysfunction, however it’s completely true. It’s a identified truth throughout the scientific neighborhood that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you stated, we don’t all the time have these research in girls. There’s a glass ceiling for ladies and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re known as histrionic, hysterical, you realize, hysteria, the idea of hysteria, you realize, whenever you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to girls. So I’m not right here to say that…you realize, I’m not right here for a girls’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that girls, we don’t all the time have the research for us, we don’t all the time have the statistics for us, however now now we have choices and we should always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males typically may have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the similar age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had huge environmental modifications which might be resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into essential to be extra proactive. When now we have extra unfavorable inputs that now we have to cope with, now we have to develop into extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you stated too about weight-reduction plan as properly, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I feel that’s one thing that uniquely impacts girls extra as properly due to weight-reduction plan tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks as if many ladies battle with the mindset of with the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and with the ability to eat sufficient various meals to actually really assist our physique. So I really like that you just introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve stated on right here earlier than is now we have to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so essential away from like meals is unhealthy. There’s guilt hooked up to meals. I must weight-reduction plan and be thinner, to I really like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to the easiest way attainable? How do I assist it? How do I assist its pure processes of cleansing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unbelievable in what they will do, they only want a little bit bit extra assist in right this moment’s world as a result of they’re going through greater than they’ve previously.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you stated so many great issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we document this and truly speak about this alone social media platforms as a result of what you stated is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Have you learnt that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing folks don’t speak about. It’s not an attractive subject, however it’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you stated earlier about…you stated one thing easy, you stated, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. If you happen to don’t get sufficient sleep, you have got decrease fertility. So when you have got decrease fertility, that impacts so many various facets of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So then you definitely talked about, you realize, different modifications which might be occurring, different issues which might be occurring with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a dimension 0-2 once I was identified with most cancers, I’m in all probability a dimension 6 proper now. And I’m not being onerous on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me flawed, I’m not consuming the whole bread basket. But when I need a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not ingesting a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine sometimes. I feel we have to be kinder to ourselves as girls and as males. I feel society may be very powerful on us. I feel there’s this complete idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be preventing that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went once I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, you realize, coping with fluid retention. I feel the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you are feeling stunning, that feeling wants to come back from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to folks going by means of struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that power wants to come back from inside us. While you look in that mirror, you’ll want to see somebody stunning, somebody robust, somebody who has persevered. We’ve all gone by means of struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal manner. I’ll have gone to medical faculty. I’ll put on an extended white coat. My successes are totally different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I wish to do, encourage folks to feeling and being their finest. It wants to come back from inside really.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an essential mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily modifications of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was rather a lot for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this a little bit bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And once I might take a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it turned a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as a substitute of preventing it and loving it as a substitute of depriving it. And that made the entire distinction. I feel you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to come back and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to come back from inside. And as girls, that additionally provides us the flexibility to be that for different folks as properly. However it may’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna be sure that we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about girls affected by one thing known as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as properly. Are you able to clarify why that’s occurring? And whether it is on the rise, why you assume it may be on the rise proper now, after which how girls can deal with that?

Dr. Bawa: There are numerous the reason why girls are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people understand that solely 18% of ladies can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra essential. We have to have higher vaginal well being, usually. Like I stated, we have to deliver higher blood circulate into the world to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I feel individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two totally different points. Some persons are having painful intercourse. Some persons are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are numerous components to this. So I feel wellness as an entire is gonna contribute to it after which training that there’s a downside. It’s okay to have that downside. And it’s okay to discuss that downside. While you deal with it together with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Hear, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I feel there are a couple of essential components to this.

It’s good to converse to a therapist. There are therapists who focus on sexual remedy and sexual wellness, they usually will help you with this. Relating to the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will provide help to with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are totally different instruments that you’ll want to assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a number of issues you are able to do to assist your self. They usually all contribute. I feel all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any one in every of them by themselves. So I feel there’s rather a lot on the market. We simply must get that assist.

Katie: And I feel having the dialog, I do know like every sexual well being subject is a little bit bit taboo and, like, I feel it raises eyebrows each time I speak about it on right here, however I feel the dialog can be essential as a result of we all know that that’s tied into general well being. And to your level, I feel this can be a subject that’s not talked about sufficient, particularly for ladies. We actually see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks as if when males have a battle with that, it turns into an important, imminent factor to repair. However girls, I really feel like typically are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s flawed with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t understand it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of girls, simply penetrative intercourse typically isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel unhealthy speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I feel opening the dialog and letting them understand that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an essential first step for ladies. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this obtainable and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in bother typically on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not exhibiting something that’s express. I imply, my posts are usually not pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will typically take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there’s disgrace even to that extent. Now let me let you know one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my kids on a trip and shut the workplace for every week and my assistant went on a trip along with her household. We consider in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we obtained an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers might not less than make and alter appointments whereas we have been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Have you learnt that I obtained a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service they usually stated to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this complete account up, however we can not reply your calls as a result of some folks name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate subject.” I stated, “Are you severe? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, you realize, “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, you realize, folks calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? They usually stated, “Nicely, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I stated, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these have been girls telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in right this moment’s day and age, within the 12 months 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I provide vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s type of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a couple of medical downside…like, to me that might be the identical as like much like a pregnant girl making an attempt to name her OB and being instructed, “Oh, I’m sorry, we will’t speak about that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…you realize, my head was spinning. I nonetheless keep in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I stated, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is unhealthy? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the woman, I stated, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you have got a vagina? Do you ever discover that you just need assistance from a physician to your vagina? I don’t anticipate you to reply that query,” I stated to her, “however how will you deny girls the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I’ll offer you a small instance of the answering service, however it signifies a much bigger situation. It’s not okay to speak about it most often. Why? We’re all ladies and men, I imply, sexual well being is essential. We’re all in a scenario the place now we have the correct to have good, intimate wellness and to not be instructed that it’s unhealthy or soiled or upsetting to the typical one who’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to folks? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a grimy phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I might not be alive right this moment. It’s not essentially a foul factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? A superb intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. If you happen to don’t dribble urine whenever you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s a much bigger situation than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we rework lives. And that’s why I feel that this must cease being such a taboo subject, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts once I speak about it, that YouTube must cease sending me, you realize, little emails warning me concerning the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being known as an issue baby as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all going through? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so completely happy you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Nicely, and also you’re so proper. I feel that the dialog is so essential. And for ladies simply to listen to that simply because these issues are frequent, it doesn’t imply they should be regular, or actually that they should expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine once I train or bounce on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t should be a factor. I feel many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you have got children, however it doesn’t should be. I feel beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And likewise a theme from this complete interview has been the mindset piece. And I feel that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly girls in terms of these matters actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a be aware in my present notes that in case you have been going to offer a TED Speak, it might be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I really like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is an important to you. So I’d love to listen to a little bit bit extra about that as a result of I feel you’re proper, mindset permeates by means of every little thing and is so, so essential. So, I might simply love to listen to a little bit little bit of your perspective on that, having been by means of adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: You understand, every little thing about who I’m right this moment has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t speak about this often, and I’m going to strive to not choke up about it as I speak about it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I am going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s a giant deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all instructional, monetary obstacles. I used to be a sufferer of quite a lot of emotional, home abuse and finally bodily abuse as properly. And also you wouldn’t assume that a physician in my scenario would cope with that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m not in that scenario anymore, it lasted a few years. I received’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a couple of mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about dropping hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me develop into a much bigger particular person, a greater particular person. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something unfavorable that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or kind that may be, to indicate my sons, who’re my world, that life is just not concerning the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to rework it. And that’s why I feel that if I used to be to ever give a TED Speak, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it might be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a couple of pageant. It was a a lot larger factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the concept of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers is just not purported to be stunning, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you achieve weight, you drop some pounds, however both manner, you’re not at your finest. So we assume that meaning we’re not stunning. No, you might be simply as stunning if no more so as a result of now you have got overcome another factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me dwell a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s virtually oxymoronic when you concentrate on adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional progress.

Katie: I absolutely agree having been by means of trauma in my previous as properly, I can now…I feel it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different folks by means of that have and thru that story. Similar factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a motive. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I feel you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so essential and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we actually all the time have that selection as properly. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was known as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a e book or various books which have had a profound affect in your life or your journey, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I feel a e book that all the time comes up in my thoughts once I’m requested a query about books or a e book that has modified me is a e book known as “Outliers.” Outlier is a e book written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are often outliers on the top of that spectrum a method or one other, and what number of instances you need to do one thing to succeed, to develop into good at it. And I feel that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the typical, above the norm that I feel is a e book that basically helps me proceed my journey in the direction of self-improvement, in the direction of reaching excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as stated to me, once I was about 5 years previous, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your title. If you wish to be a physician, be the perfect you might be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. You understand, if you wish to be any individual who does desserts for a dwelling, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in every little thing. In order that’s, you realize, one thing that I feel “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s stunning. I really like that. And I’ll, after all, put hyperlinks to your observe and to some submit regarding a few of the matters we’ve talked about right this moment for any of you guys listening, particularly in case you are within the Florida space and wish to discover Dr. Bawa and study. These hyperlinks will likely be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners right this moment, whether or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the matters we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I feel if I might really give two items of recommendation in case you’ll let me, I feel I’d prefer to say two issues. Firstly, girls, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is essential. If there’s one thing flawed, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will take heed to you. Secondly, I might say, I consider in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see whenever you look within the mirror. If you happen to’re not completely happy together with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There may be assist on the market. If you happen to’re not having one of the best intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have one of the best intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, you realize, doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you just’re not pleased with, don’t be complacent. So lots of my sufferers say, “Nicely, I’m not that unhealthy but.” That idea is not sensible to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is an entire catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, as an example, the place it’s obtained no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. If you happen to’re having points together with your hormones and also you’re having sizzling flashes, converse to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Do this. So, I feel, dwell your finest life, no matter meaning to you. In no matter form or kind you possibly can elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I really like that. And I feel that sums up quite a lot of what we talked about right this moment and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful to your time right this moment. I’m very grateful that you’ve recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you just’re serving to many different folks do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was great.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most dear belongings, your time and vitality, and a focus with us right this moment. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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